Fazakerley Saga
Faz Trek - The Next Generation
Musical Accompaniment: Berlioz, Hector (1803-1869):
Berlioz_fantastique_un_ball.mid (Symphonie Fantastique, Un Ball); www.karadar.com
Introducing: Stephen Cook
A Methodical Personal Search for His Ancestors
Careful Research Involving the Inclusion & Exclusion of Family Lines
Compiled Correspondence in Installment Form
The May/June 2001 issue of Ancestry had two articles that reminded me of Stephen Cook’s careful pursuit of facts in researching his Fazakerley ancestors: The Life and Deaths of John Parker by Stephen K. Parker and Information, Evidence & Proof by Donn Devine.
How do you know if you have the right connection? Stephen stated: I have found particularly with the Fazakerleys that elimination of some branches is as often as useful as the inclusion of others.” Stephen’s line goes back to his Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfather, Richard Fazakerley. The following material is of correspondence by mail in several installments.
T
Billie Fazakerly Harrison
Stephen’s Introduction
Dear Reader: 
What follows is my research of 4 Fazakerley sisters one of whom was my G.G. Grandmother. When they married the Fazakerley name was pruned from my family tree.
I would like to thank my mum for getting me involved in genealogy and for her many reminiscences and family stories.
My thanks to Billie for all the effort and time she devotes to the Fazakerley Database and for her continued interest and support in my endeavors.
I hope the following will help you eliminate some of the following Fazakerleys from your research and may encourage you to offer your information for the benefit of all.
If you recognize any relations or can offer additional information please do not hesitate to contact me.
Good Hunting
Stephen
(E-mail: cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk)
Outline for Stephen's Case Study
Case Study
1) “The First Few Twigs of My
Faz Branch
2) “A Few Twigs”;
3) “Branch and Twigs”
4) “Yet More Branches, Twigs and
Leaves”
5) “What a Lot of Williams”
6) “Oh No! More Fazakerley
Leaves and Branches!”
7) “Branches-Twigs-Leaves and a
Few Seeds”
8) "A Few Burials: Maghull & Sephton
9) "Marriage Certificates, Poll Book, etc.
10) Letter from Debbie, Connected to Stephen via Ann Pimblett
11) "Bits & Bobs"
12) "Sorting out the branches"
13) "John Faz Found at Last!"
14) Map
15) "Possible Parents of Richard"
Case Study, Eleven Installments: 3/24/2001 to 3/16/2003
Installment One 
Subj:
The first few twigs of my Faz branch
From:
cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Hello Billie
At last the
opportunity to send the first installment of my Faz research. I can see that you
have not been idle these last few days. New searches appearing on your FazDB
(Fazakerley Database) or even BDB (Billie's Database) almost on a daily basis. I
haven't had enough time to really check the FDB against my records, a pleasure I
am looking forward to.
Anyway my
researches commenced about a year ago to the day and were triggered by the death
of my mothers elder sister. My mother thus became the only left of her
generation and obviously thoughts turned to family history. I knew a bit about
the family from previous discussions, however after taking some notes and
attempting to construct a tree of the relatives my mum could remember I
suggested we go to Halsall Churchyard to have a look around. She knew some of
the older generations lived and were buried there.
It was only
right at the end of our searches of the gravestones in the churchyard that we
found a gravestone laid into the grass, overgrown with moss and lichen:
1 Richard Fazakerley died Sept 15 1871 aged 29 years
3 Also
William Kenny who died May [unreadable] Died 2 years
4 Also
William Kenny father of the above who died Feb? [unreadable] 1922?
5 Also Mary
Jane beloved wife [unreadable] Who died Dec [unreadable] Aged 8-?
My mum
recognized these as:
1 Richard
Fazakerley her Great Grandfather who she knew died very young in a fatal
accident.
2 As the
illegitimate son of Ellen Fazakerley daughter of the Richard above. As
“Authur” is "not" a Fazakerley family name I believe him to be
named after his father who was a farmer in Halsall.
3 William
Kenny. I can remember my grandmother [who's mother was Mary Jane
Fazakerley another of the daughters of
Richard above] telling me that she had
had an elder brother called William who died as a baby
So adding my mother's other two Aunts gave Richard Fazakerley
Married to Margaret (my mum knew her forename). They had 4 daughters: Ellen, Susannah, Margaret, Mary Jane
I checked the 1871 Census and found in Small Lane,
Halsall:
Richard Fazakerley Head of Household 28; Engine Driver
Threshing Machine; Margaret Wife 32; Ann daughter [9?] Mary Jane daughter 9;
Margaret daughter 4; Ellen daughter 1; James Cave brother in law 22 Ag labourer
This
confirmed Margaret's maiden name as Cave. Susannah would not have been born
before 1871. Also it is more than likely that the fatal injury Richard sustained
to his legs was as a result of slipping into the threshing machine. Sadly and
horrifically this was
not uncommon.
I checked the 1881 Census and found at Small Lane.
Halsall:
Thomas Clare Head 63 Farm Labourer; Margaret Clare Wife 40;
Ann Cave Stepdaughter 19 Unmarried; Margaret Fazakerley Stepdaughter 13 Scholar;
Ellen Fazakerley Stepdaughter l1 Scholar; Susannah Fazakerley Stepdaughter 9
Scholar; Thomas Clare Son 3
And at Renacres Farm, Halsall, Renacres Lane:
John Hesketh Head
of Household; John Cave 15 Farm Labourer; Mary Jane Fazakerley 16 Domestic
Servant
My mother knew that when Richard Fazakerley died, Margaret,
his wife remarried Thomas Clare.
Thus all
the above, with the possible exception of dates of birth in the Census records,
is sound history. I appreciate that you can refute anything and I would except
that everything that I have researched after this varies from nearly absolute
confirmation to speculative. That is, I am always ready to re-examine any
of my conclusions.
Thus I
eventually checked the IGI for the 4 sisters born (roughly about): Mary Jane
1865; Margaret 1868; Ellen 1870; Susannah 1872
1 found in
the IGI the following reasonable matches all with parents Richard and Margaret
Fazakerley: Mary Jane 1865 Jan 22 Halsall, Christening; Margaret 13 Jan 1867
Halsall, Christening; Ellen 23 May 1869 Halsall, Christening; Susannah 10 Nov 1871
Halsall, Christening
I also
found the following gravestone in Halsall Churchyard
1] Ann Wife
of Benjamin Cave died 5 November 1856 (44)
(1, Margaret's mother who was formerly Ann Snape from a
huge family of canal boat men
2] Also of the above Benjamin Cave January
17 1873 (66)
(2, Margaret's father: Benjamin Cave)
3] And Margaret wife of Thomas Clare died March 4 1917 (78)
(3, Margaret whose first husband was Richard Fazakerley)
My mum gave
me the following spouses for the 4 Fazakerley sisters: Mary Jane married William
Kenny; Margaret married John Lloyd; Ellen married William Roughley, no children;
Susannah married John Lunt
This seems
to be an appropriate place to stop having established Richard and Margaret and
the 4 daughters.
I can add
the following information from BMD Certificates I have purchased. I won't give
all the details but will send you photocopies instead:
Birth: Richard Fazakerley 10 November 1842 born to Mary Fazakerley [formerly Johnson] and Richard Fazakerley, Water Man
(which I believe is synonymous with Boatman)
Marriage: 28
December 1863 Richard Fazakerley [father Richard Fazakerley Waterman] and
Margaret Cave [father Benjamin Cave Labourer] Witnesses Robert and Catherine
Cave
Marriage: 24
September 1838 Benjamin Cave {no father given??} and Ann Snape [father Robert
Snape boatman] Witnesses Edward Goulbourn [Billie do you recognise this name???
I have only just made a possible connection myself with looking at the
certificate again] and Margaret Snape.
I
appreciate you reading through this, it has certainly been useful to lay it out
as a story like this.
Thanks once
more for your generosity in placing all your valuable research at everyone's
disposal. I know some people who regard their family history as private
property, what a shame.
Best Wishes
Stephen
Installment Two
Subj:
A few twigs
Date:
3/29/2001 1:34:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:
cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To:
Bfazakerly@aol.com
Hi Billie
Thanks for
the recent e-mail and for your kind words regarding my researches. I
suppose having a scientific training and working with databases and spreadsheets
does mean that I am rather particular over data in general.
As
mentioned before I think it is important to state what level of confidence you
have in the data one quotes. For instance the 4 Fazakerley daughters of Richard
can be readily and confidently eliminated from many Fazakerley researchers'
lists of possibles.
I shall
send the next installment at the weekend when I have time to sit and put
everything in order with evidence.
I have been
searching your database over the last week and have found some wonderful
supporting evidence.
Please feel
free to add the information I send to your database.
Best wishes
and goodbye for the moment.
Stephen
Installment Three
Subj: Branch and twigs
From: cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Hello Billie
Here is the
next installment of my researches into my Fazakerley branch and twigs.
Having
established that Richard Fazakerley and Margaret Cave were the parents of
Susannah, Margaret, Ellen and Mary Jane Fazakerley my thoughts turned to a
comment my mother remembered Mary Jane making.
I should
explain that my mum lived with her parents and her grandmother Mary Jane Faz and
that the three other sisters either lived locally or visited on a regular basis.
My mum
recalls a woman, called Aunt Polly, visiting her grandmother in Ormskirk.
Grandmother referred to this woman as Aunt Polly and remarked that it was
strange having an aunt only 3 years difference in age from oneself!!! A
potentially great clue.
The visits
by Aunt Polly usually coincided with market day, which was and still is on a
Thursday (there is a Saturday Market also). Polly came from Maghull by bus and
was treated as a special visitor.
Polly in
the Fazakerley side of my family is reserved for someone called Mary or Mary
Jane. Similarly Susannah was known as Susie; Margaret as Maggie; and Ellen as
Nellie.
After
several false starts becoming misled by various Fazakerleys in Maghull I
searched the 1881 Census and came across the following entry with which I
am sure you are familiar:
Dwelling:
53 Benledi St
Mary
FAZAKERLEY W 58 F Halsall Relationship: Head
John
FAZAKERLEY U 20 M Halsall Rel: Son Occ:
General Carter
Mary
FAZAKERLEY U 18 F Halsall Rel: Daur
John
MARSHALL U 22 M Halsall Rel: Boarder General Carter
---Mary
Jane Fazakerley [daughter of Richard Fazakerley and Margaret
Cave) christened
1865 Jan 22 Halsall born about 1865.
---Mary
Fazakerley U 18 F Halsall, Rel: Daur [from the 1881 Census above] would have
been born about 1863. An age difference of 2 years, might be 1 or 3 years
depending on actual birth dates. Not a bad fit with 70 year old memories.
---The
unmarried daughter Mary Fazakerley is living with her mother:
Mary
FAZAKERLEY W 58 F Halsall Rel: Head And her brother John FAZAKERLEY U 20 M
Halsall Rel: Son Occ: General Carter
This Mary,
the mother and a widow would have born about 1823 and John, the brother, would
have been born about 1861. 1 dare say that at this point you are putting 2 and 2
together and coming up with 3 of your database census records for Richard and
Mary.
However, I
did not have access at this time to any other information and of course I am
researching several other branches of my family through at least 8 counties in
England. In the meantime my mum was methodically searching for Richard and Mary
in the Census records and had found the following:
1861
Census Halsall Address: Aspinwall Lane; Fazakerley Richard, Head of household,
Age 42 (b. abt. 1819), Occ., Boatman, Canal Captain, Born Halsall Mary, Wife,
Age 37 (1824), b. Halsall Ann, dau., unmarried, Age 20, b. Halsall other
children b. Liverpool; Robert 15 Occ., Mate; Jane, 12; James, 10; William, 7; Edward,
4; John, 4 m; Ellen, Sister, Age 31, Occ., Nurse, b. Halsall (Couple: Richard & Mary)
Places: Halsall; Liverpool, Lancashire
I really
liked the look of this record but I was really looking for the 4 Fazakerley
sister's father Richard [born about 1841-2]. No Richard on this record and
no Mary either. So I put the record away and continued chasing the Curtis branch
of my family from Lincoln to Liverpool and Hull, via Nottingham and Sheffield.
That was up
to a few weeks ago when I started to input ALL my researches into
"Legacy" software. I suddenly had one of those genealogical electric
shocks. The one where your brain gives a sudden lurch and suddenly fit
everything into place [maybe this only happens to me?].
Essentially
I realised that Mary was born before the time of the 1861 Census in Aspinwall
Lane. Also in 1861 Richard would have been about 19 and may well have left home.
So I may have a census record with both Richard and Mary missing for different
reasons.
To
summarize I believe that the family units in the 1861 Aspinwall Lane record and
the 1881 Benledi St record are the same. Richard has tragically died in the
accident and his wife Mary is living in Liverpool with the 2 youngest children,
John and Mary.
Mary the
mother is 37 [born Halsall] in 1861 and 58 [born Halsall] in 1881; John is 4
months [born Halsall] in 1861 and 20 [born Halsall] in 1881; Mary isn't born in
1861 and 18 [born Halsall] in 1881
Additionally
my mum had told me that of the 4 Fazakerley sisters Susannah and Mary Jane were
much more "worldly" having moved to Liverpool whilst Ellen and Margaret remained
more "countrified" remaining in the Ormskirk / Halsall area.
Additionally,
having identified Aunt Polly, as Richard’s sister and being very close in age
and friendship with Mary Jane it was possible to add the following link. I knew
Mary Jane Fazakerley married William Kenny who lived in Great Howard Street area
of Liverpool i.e. very near the docks. William Kenny was foreman horseman for
the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway and his son was a carter. John Fazakerley
in Benledi St is also a carter and Benledi St is very near Great Howard Street.
Thus it was not unreasonable to assume that Mary Jane might have moved to
Liverpool to be with her grandmother and Aunt and could have become acquainted
with William Kenny through the families shared occupation.
My mum knew
that Aunt Polly married a man called John Lunt, they lived in Maghull, ran a hay
and straw business and possibly an ale house. My mum was highly delighted when
she found the following 1891 Census record
16 Old Turnpike Road, Maghull
John Lunt Head 34 Hay and
Straw Dealer born Lydiate;
Mary J Lunt Wife 28 born Halsall
Richard Lunt Son 4
born Maghull;
Henry Lunt Son 1 born Maghull
15 Turnpike Road, Maghull
Mary Fazakerley Widow 70
Seamstress, small shop Halsall
My mum knew straight away that this Mary J Lunt was "Aunt Polly". The age matches exactly with previous 1881 Census record and she was born in Halsall. Her first son is called Richard [always a good sign]. The Mary Fazakerley living next door is I believe Mary J Lunt's mother Mary Johnson who married Richard Fazakerley [Canal Boat Captain] on 18 May 1840 in Halsall. Incidentally Susannah Fazakerley's occupation also seamstress??
I had
intended to cover much more than this. However, I think this is an appropriate
place to end this episode. Having read the above it is a bit repetitive; I hope
you do not find it too boring.
I attempted
to obtain John Fazakerley's [Benledi Street 1881] birth certificate. However the
request produced the following which I could not find in your database.
Birth: John
Fazakerley born 14 June 1861 Holmes Tarleton (North of Ormskirk) Father Richard
Fazakerley Farmer, Mother Mary Fazakerley formerly Bolton Birth Registered by
mother 25 June 1861
I did obtain Aunt Polly's birth certificate:
Born 14
February 1863 in Halsall to Richard Fazakerley Boatman & Mary Fazakerley formerly
Johnson
Obviously
given time I will obtain all relevant certificates the only prohibition being
the cost.
I do agree
that Maghull Churchyard is a potential source of Fazakerleys. Next time I visit
my mum and also have the time I will attempt to visit and record what I can. If
you do have any particular names and dates to look for let me know. However, I
make no promises as to when I will be able to go. I think Aunt Polly will be
buried there and possibly her mother.
Nearly
bedtime so I will send this e-mail to you and say goodnight
Best wishes
Stephen
Installment Four
Subj:
Yet more branches, twigs and leaves
From:
cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Hello Billie
Your
database gets better and better. The divisions you have made make upload times
just right. I spend a lot of time looking at all the data stored on it. I am
having trouble opening Malcolm's FazIGI HTML I guess it is just too big for my
computer, I will wait for the cut down versions.
I am so
pleased that your generosity of time and inclination has resulted in so many
responding by offering their own information to add to your database.
Here is the
installment 4 of my Fazakerleys.
Obviously
as this is less recent timeframe there are more possibles than definites
I have attempted to reconcile the data available to me but there is still much
to do.
1]
Having established Richard (b1843) and Mary (Aunt Polly) (b1863) as children of
Richard and Mary Fazakerley but absent on the 1861 Census (Richard had died and
Mary had not been born) I then came across the wonderful 1851 Census
record on your database
1851 Census; March, 1851; LDS Film # 0087176; Regis. Dist., Great Howard Street; Ward Vauxhall; Enu. Dist., # 1 L Eccles. Dist., Vauxhall; Address: 31 Carruthers St.; Richard, Head of Household, Age 32, Occ., Beer House Keeper, Born, Halsall Mary, Wife, Age 28, Occ., Beer House Keeper, Born, Halsall Ann, Dau., Age 10, Scholar, born, Halsall Richard, son, Age 8, Scholar, born Halsall Robert, son, Age 6, Scholar, born, Liverpool Jane, dau., Age 2, born Liverpool
[Question:
I wonder were this family was at the time of the 1871 Census. They could have
been on their boat as far away as Leeds!]
This shows
Richard as 2nd child in the family. From the dates of birth of the children it
would appear that the family probably moved from Halsall to Liverpool between
1843‑45. Also of interest is that Richard is a beer house keeper and not a
boatman (as shown on the 1861 Census). [Incidentally when I mentioned the beer
house to my mum she realised that what she remembered from her youth was not the
family discussing Aunt Polly as having an ale house (her phrase was ale house,
like beer house not the more usual British usage of public house) but that her
(Aunt Polly') father did.]
Carruthers
Street is still in existence and ran alongside a short spur of the Leeds
Liverpool Canal.
I thought
it strange that Richard is a beer house keeper in 1851 and then in 1861 he is a
Canal Boat Captain. Canal boat families working the Leeds and Liverpool Canal
were a very tight and separate community. They tended to marry amongst
themselves and from my limited knowledge anyone called a Captain of a canal boat
has been an owner of the boat rather than someone who simply works the boat that
is owned by another. This appears to suggest that either the boat was inherited
or he bought it.
2]
Next I looked at the other children shown on the Census. So I carded out a
search of the IGI looking for any children of a Richard and Mary Fazakerley in
Lancashire and found the following 26 possibles. I excluded any christened
and/or born before 1835 Richard and Mary having been married in 1840. This left
18. Assuming the Burial Record on your database is probably that of Captain
Richard Fazakerley [1869 Aug 06 Richard Fazakerley Halsall Parish Church;
Burial; J. Cotter, Min.; Age 50 (b. abt. 1819) Of Downholland Halsall] then
children born from 1872 onwards can reasonably be discounted
3]
1 have cross‑referenced these against the names shown in the 1851 and 1861
Census records and data from your database (BDB). The list is as follows
Betty
[Unlikely] [IGI] Gender: F Christening: 13 Mar 1836 Paul Street Primitive
Methodist, Preston
Henry
[Unlikely] [IGI] Gender: M Christening: 16 Feb 1879 Aughton and 0rmskirk
Elizabeth
[Unlikely] [IGI] Gender: F Christening: 6 Mar 1881 Aughton And Ormskirk
William
Henry [Likely} [IGI] Gender: M Christening: 28 Jan 1855 All Souls Vauxhall,
Liverpool The following William who died at 16 months of age is obviously not
the William Henry above. I think he is the son of William Fazakerley and
Margaret Goulborn born 16 April 1854. 1 have a copy of this birth certificate
and will send a copy in the near future.
[BDB] 1855 Sep 23 William Fazakerley
St. John's Church, Old Haymarket; Burial; Age 16 mos. No parents listed;
Address: Carruthers Street Liverpool Lancashire. Possibly William Henry [1861]
William, Age 7, born Liverpool.
Ann [Convincing evidence] [IGI] Gender: F Christening: 18 Apr 1841 Halsall
[BDB] 1841 Apr 18 Anne Fazakerley Halsall Parish
[1851 Census] Ann, Dau., Age 10, Scholar, born,
[1861 Census] Ann, dau., unmarried, Age 20, b. Halsall
Richard [Convincing evidence]
[BDB] 1843 Jan 01 Richard Fazakerley Halsall Parish
[1851 Census] Richard, son, Age 8, Scholar, born
Robert [Convincing evidence]
[BDB] 1845 Jun 30 Robert Fazakerley C; Parents; St.
[1851 Census] Robert, son, Age 6, Scholar, born,
[1861 Census] Robert, 15, Occ., Mate; b. Liverpool
Jane [Convincing evidence]
[1851 Census]: Jane, dau., Age 2, born Liverpool
[1861 Census] Jane, 12; b. Liverpool
James
[Convincing evidence] [IGI] Gender: M Christening: 3 Jan 1848 Saint Peter,
Liverpool
The following does not refer to this James as he lived to be at
least 10 years of age.
[BDB] Burial 1848 Feb 16 James Fazakerley Halsall Parish
Church; Burial; Age, 2 weeks; Liverpool; R. Leigh, Min. Parents not listed
Halsall; Liverpool Lancashire
[1861 Census] James, 10; b. Liverpool
William [Convincing evidence]
[BDB] William Henry
Fazakerley
[BDB] 1857 Jan 27 Edward Fazakerley All Saints All
[1861 Census] Edward, 4; b. Liverpool
John [Convincing e1widence]
[BDB] 1860 Dec 16 John Fazakerley All Saints All
[1861 Census] John, 4 mos.; b. Liverpool
Mary [Convincing evidence]
[BDB] 1863 Mar 01 Mary Fazakerley Halsall Parish
Halsall Lancashire
Thomas
[Possible, like Mary he would not show up on the Census records of 1851 and 61]
[IGI] Gender: M Birth: 1870 Halsall [BDB] 1870 IGI Index; Thomas Fazakerley C;
Parents Richard & Mary Halsall Lancashire
Margaret
Elizabeth [Unlikely, Captain Richard probably dead by this time] [IGI] Gender: F
Christening: 4 Mar 1872 Ormskirk [BDB] 1872 Mar 04 Margaret Elizabeth Fazakerley
C; Parents Richard & Mary Ormskirk Lancashire
William
[Unlikely, Captain Richard probably dead by this time] [IGI] Gender: M
Christening: 29 Oct 1874 Aughton By Ormskirk [BDB] 1874 Oct 29 William
Fazakerley C; Parents Richard & Mary Aughton by Ormskirk Lancashire
Jane
[Unlikely, Captain Richard probably dead by this time] [IGI] Gender: F
Christening: 3 Sep 1876 Aughton By Ormskirk Jane FAZAKERLEY Gender: F
Christening: 3 Sep 1876 Halsall [BDB] 1876 Sep 03 Jane Fazakerley C; Parents;
(another entry states Halsall) Richard & Mary Aughton by Ormskirk Lancashire
Henry
[Unlikely, Captain Richard probably dead by this time] [IGI] Gender: M
Christening: 16 Feb 1879 Aughton By Ormskirk
These last
3 children are likely to be sibling and children of another Richard and Mary
Fazakerley.
This gives
on the basis of convincing evidence and in order of birth Ann, Richard, Robert,
Jane, James, William, Edward, John, Mary and a possible Thomas.
4]
The next thing I did was see if there were any references to these Fazakerley
children upon the 1881 Census. I have also included any evidence obtained
from your database.
Ann born about 1841:
There
are a few Anns born in Halsall in 1841that are on the 1881 Census. The most interesting
are:
Dwelling:
Trundlepie Lane Census Place: Halsall, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341895 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3743 Folio 31 Page 18 Marr
Age Sex Birthplace
Henry
SHAKELADY M 44 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Farm Labourer
Ann
SHAKELADY M 40 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife
Mary
SHAKELADY 13 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Ellen
SHAKELADY 8 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Henry
SHAKELADY 5 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Edward
SHAKELADY 3 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Son
Dwelling:
Holly House Green Census Place: Aughton, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341896 PRO Ref RG11 Piece
James
WITTER M 41 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Ag Lab
Ann
WITTER M 40 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife
Mary
WITTER 12 F Down Holland, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Richard
WITTER 11 M Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Sarah
J. WITTER 4 F Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
James
W. WITTER 9 m M Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son
Richard
had died by 1881
Robert:
born in Liverpool about 1845:
No Robert
1841-1851 in Yorkshire or Lancashire on the 1881 Census but in Cheshire
the following:
1881
Dwelling: Penketh Lane, Runcom, Cheshire
Mary JACKSON M 65 F Tarven, Cheshire Rel: Wife
Robert FAZAKERLY M 34 M Lpool Rel: Son In Law Occ:
Waterman
Sarah FAZAKERLY M 30 F Runcom, Cheshire, England Rel:
Daur
Jane born about 1849:
Speculation [BDB] 1869 Sep 13 Jane Fazakerley Marriage;
James Tweedell, Sefton (Sephton) Lancashire
Dwelling:
32 Desmond St, Everton, Liverpool Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Henry
TWIDALE M 35 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Dock Porter
Jane
TWIDALE M 32 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife
Mary
Ellen TWIDALE 5 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Elizabeth
Jane TWIDALE 3 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
James born about 1851:
If James was 10 on 7 Apr 1861 [the date of 1861 Census] then
he was born between 7 Apr 1850 and 6 Apr 1851. Therefore on 3 Apr 1881 [the date
of 1861 Census] he would be 29 approaching 30. The following James is a likely
candidate.
Dwelling:
29 Wrexham St, Kirkdale, Liverpool
James
FAZAKERLEY M 29 M Liverpool Rel: Head Occ: Carter
Ellen
FAZAKERLEY M 29 F Lathom Rel: Wife
Elizabeth
FAZAKERLEY 4 F Liverpool Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Mary
A. FAZAKERLEY 2 F Liverpool Rel: Daur
Richard
FAZAKERLEY 1 M Liverpool Rel: Son
George
F. CORBETT U 30 M West Derby Rel: Boarder Occ: Laborer
From
IGI: James FAZAKERLEY married Ellen WITTER Marriage: 5 Jul 1875
Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
I mentioned
the above entry to my mum and she said that she remembers her grandmother [who
would be James' niece] pointing out a person once and saying "she is called
Witter, they are relatives".
Interestingly,
there is also this James who might be a contender if the Census dates are not
accurate.
Dwelling:
Alert (Name Of Canal Boat) Census Place: Blackrod, Lancs
James
FAZACKERLEY M 32 M Liverpool, Lancs Occ: Master Boatman
William
born about 1854
1881 Census, Very likely to be William Fazakerley, age and
birthplace correct, and first son called Richard.
Dwelling: 52 Stanley Rd,
Kirkdale, Liverpool Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William
FAZACKERLY M 27 M Halsall Rel: Head Occ: Carter
Mary
FAZACKERLY M 27 F Halsall Rel: Wife
Richard
FAZACKERLY 3 M Liverpool Rel: Son
Alfred
FAZACKERLY 2 m M Liverpool Rel: Son
Mary
SCULLEY 14 F Liverpool Rel: Serv. Occ: Domestic Servant
Edward born about 1857 in Liverpool
Dwelling:
47 Upper Beau St, Everton, Liverpool Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Elizabeth
WETTER W 54 F Lathom, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Housekeeper
John
E. CRANK M 26 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Son In Law Occ: Paper Ruler
Elizabeth
CRANK M 25 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Envelope Maker
Edward
FAZAKERLEY M 24 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Son In Law Occ: Carter
Alice
FAZAKERLEY M 23 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Richard
FAZAKERLEY 6 m M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Grandson
John born about 1861 and Mary born 1863
1881
Census Dwelling: 53 Benledi St, Liverpool, Lancashire Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Mary
FAZAKERLEY W 58 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Head
John
FAZAKERLEY U 20 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: General Carter
Mary
FAZAKERLEY U 18 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
John
MARSHALL U 22 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder
Thomas born about 1870
I think he
is the following, born to another Richard and Mary Fazakerley. It would appear
that this Richard Fazakerley was from Aughton married Mary ??? from Halsall
Dwelling:
Hills Lane, Census
Place: Aughton, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341896 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3744
Folio 19 Page 31Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Richard
FAZAKERLEY M 36 M Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Ag Lab
Mary
FAZAKERLEY M 31 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife
Thomas
FAZAKERLEY 11 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ:
Scholar
Jane
FAZAKERLEY 4 F Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Henry
FAZAKERLEY 2 M Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Son
Elizabeth
FAZAKERLEY 2 m F Aughton, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Mary
JANES 16 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Visitor
It is
interesting that so many of the family MAY-- from the 1881 Census records--have
been carters in Liverpool. I imagine that having used horses for pulling boats
they must have gained a lot of knowledge and experience that was transferable to
carting. Also if the records are correct most of them lived in Kirkdale, Everton
and Vauxhall areas of Liverpool only a few miles away from their mother at
Benledi Street.
Well this
is the end of this episode of "Faz Trek The Next Generation". I will,
eventually, check out the above marriages by ordering the corresponding Marriage
Certificates. There is one more episode yet if you can bear it.
I would
welcome any corrections or observations to this episode in particular.
Best wishes
Stephen
Installment Five
Subj:
What a lot of Williams
From: cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Just a
short'ish e-mail to let you know that I am still working on what I had
assumed to be the fourth and final episode of my Fazakerleys. However, I think
it is going to have to be split into at least 2 sections as it has proved to be
very complex and brain-numbing exercise.
However in the meantime here is some good news. I received the Birth Certificate for William Henry Fazakerley who I believe is the same one that appears on the 1861 Census Halsall Address: Aspinwall Lane; Richard Fazakerley, Head of household, Age 42 (b. abt. 1819), Occ., Boatman, Canal Captain, Born Halsall; Mary, Wife, Age 37 (1824), b. Halsall; Ann, dau., unmarried, Age 20, b. Halsall; other children b. Liverpool; Robert 15 Occ., Mate; Jane, 12; James, 10; William, 7; Edward, 4; John, 4 m; Ellen, Sister, Age 31, Occ., Nurse, b. Halsall (Couple: Richard & Mary) Places mentioned: Halsall; Liverpool, Lancashire Co.
The
information is as follows:
When
and Where: 27 October 1854 Boat "N" Canal
Who:
William Henry, Boy
Father:
Richard Fazackerley, Occupation: Boatman
Mother:
Mary Fazakerley, formerly Johnson
Informant: x the mark of Mary Fazackerley, Mother, Boat "N" Canal Liverpool
Registered:
6 Dec 1854
Registrar:
Geo. Gurden
Thus: In 1854 two
William Fazakerleys were born in Liverpool.
The first to William Faz and Margaret Goulbourn of Carruthers
Street. This William died at 16 months of age is obviously not the William Henry
above. He is the son of William Fazakerley and Margaret Goulborn born 16 April
1854. 1 have a copy of this Birth Certificate.
However the
following record 2674 of your database suggests that a William Henry (Parents
Richard and Mary) was baptised in Vauxhall on 1855 Jan 28.
1855 Jan 28
William Henry Fazackerley All Saints All Souls, Vauxhall; Baptism; A. Hume,
Incumbent; LDS Film # 1068892 Richard & Mary; Occ., Laborer; Abode: Hindley,
Wigan; Places mentioned in the report: Liverpool; Wigan Lancashire Co.
The
occupation of the father is Labourer and the abode is Wigan. I wonder if this
William Henry is the same as that who's Birth Certificate I have just received.
Any ideas,
please?
Thanks,
Stephen
Installment Six
Subj:
Oh No!
more Fazakerley leaves
and branches
Date: 5/11/2001 6:59:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Hi Billie
Sorry about
the delay in supplying the next exciting? section of my Fazakerleys. Apart from
life getting in the way I really needed to put this section aside and come back
to it as it was getting too complex.
Well here
is next section. Obviously as it goes further back in time there is more
uncertainty and therefore more loose ends. I have not made any blind assumptions
but have attempted to make connections via existence. See what you think:
Taking
Captain Richard Fazakerley in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 Census as reference
points:
[BFD] 1841 Census Richard Fazakerley Halsall Parish;
Halsall Township; Living in Halsall Village; Richard, Age 20; Occ., Boatman
[BFD] 1851 Census; March 1851; Regis. Dist., Great
Howard Street; Ward Vauxhall; Address: 31 Carruthers St.; Richard, Head of
Household, Age 32, Occ., Beer House Keeper, Born, Halsall
[BFD] 1861 Census 1861 Census; Reg. Sub Dist., Halsall;
Enu. Dist. 2‑C; Eccles. Dist., St. Cuthberts; Address: Aspinwall Lane;
He would
have been born about 1818-1819 or as late as 1821 according to the 1841
Census [which is not as reliable on dates] and the following appears to be the
best and possibly only likely available match. The fact that that his father was
called Richard (his son Captain Richard names his first son Richard, this was
usually after the paternal grandfather) , that he was a boatman and the parents
abode was Halsall the place Captain Richard twice reported to the Census
enumerator are 3 points of evidence.
[BFD] Richard Fazakerley Ormskirk Parish; Bapt.; Born, Dec.
12 1818; Bapt. Feb. 14, 1819; ‑Williamson, Off. Minister Richard &
Jane; Occ. Boatman; Abode, Halsall, Ormskirk; Addtionally there is the fortunate
fact that on the 1861 Census Richard's sister Ellen is shown
Ellen
appears as a nurse presumably nursing the 4 month old baby John. Ellen would
have been born 1829-30 and the following is a very good "fit".
[MF IGI] Chr F FAZAKERLEY Ellen Richard FAZAKERLEY Jane 17
May 1829 Halsall
Being
reasonably sure the Richard and Ellen above are brother and sister of the same
parents Richard and Jane I searched Malcolm's database for this couple and only
found the following within the possible time-frame:
However, I
also found the following on your database:
I favour
the former for its Halsall connections and conversely do not favour the latter
because Richard's occupation is a Labourer not a boatman, also there is a
Liverpool connection. Regarding the former it refers to Richard Fazakerley
marrying Jane Fazakerley. As other IGI entries record both the spouses' full
names is it safe to assume that the both were called Fazakerley before marriage?
Of course this doesn't preclude Jane Fazakerley from being a widow and marrying
a brother or cousin of her deceased husband.
I have to
admit that I am fonder of the Victorian period of my family's history. There is
more information, it is more reliable and much interesting. Additionally I have
never dabbled in Church Records too much and to be honest am not too bothered
about tracing my descendency back to the Norman Conquest. Having said all that I
am sure [hope] someone may have already made the best possible connections of
this pre 1800 material. I do feel I am floundering with this period.
A quick
check of the IGI gave me 16 possible Richard Fazakerleys born or christened in
the timeframe, this appears to have been Margaret Twist's conclusion. The most
likely is: Richard Fazakerley Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1790 Of Halsall, Ormskirk,
Lancashire, England No parents but his Spouse was Jane
Could he
have died in 1812 having only had Richard??? 1812 ‑ Richard Fazakerley St.
John's Church; Burial; Grave Register; Rank 8, Grave 1 Occupation: Brewer
(another entry states Richard Fazackerley, Brewer, Rank 5 Grave 38, another
person?) Liverpool Lancashire. OR, 1831 Aug 02 Richard Fazakerley Burial;
Halsall Parish Church; Age 47 (b. abt. 1784) Of Halsall Halsall Lancashire
1841 Jan 14
Richard Fazakerley St. Thomas' Church, Park Lane; Index to Gravestones; Burial;
Richard, Age 40, Occ., Carter; Cause of death, Tet--; Buried January 17, 3:00
pm; Address, Kitchen St.?? ; LDS Film # 1564328; (b. abt. 1801) Liverpool
Lancashire
Having
reassured myself that Jane and Richard are the most likely parents of Captain
Richard and Ellen I searched for all children belonging to a Richard and Jane in
this timeframe. So in chronological order of birth or baptism:
#1
Susannah Fazakerley [IGI] Gender: F Christening: 1 Sep 1816 Halsall, Ormskirk
Father: Richard FAZAKERLEY Mother: Jane FAZAKERLEY
[BFD] 1816 Sep 01; Addendum 2 Susannah Fazakerley Ormskirk
Parish Church; Born Sept. 01; Bapt. Sept. 15; LDS Film # 37047; Book 70269, pg.
124 & 126; Church Member, Margaret Twist Fawcett, "Family
Representative"; Richard b. abt. 1790;
#2 Richard Fazakerley
[MF IGI] Bir M FAZAKERLEY Richard Richard FAZAKERLEY Jane 12
Dec 1818 Halsall Ormskirk
No matches on 1881 Census +-3
[BFD] 1841 Census, Entry # 1156, 1821Born roughly abt., Richard Fazakerley
1841 Census; LDS Film # 927559; Halsall Parish; Halsall Township; Living in
Halsall Village; Richard, Age 20; Occ., Boatman With: Mary, Age 19; (Couple:
Richard
& Mary); Places mentioned: Halsall Parish; Halsall Township; Halsall Village, Lancaster
(Lancashire Co.)
[BFD] 1851
Census 1819 born roughly abt., Richard Fazakerley 1851 Census; March, 1851; LDS Film#
0087176; Regis. Dist., Great Howard Street, Ward Vauxhall; Enu. Dist., #
1L; Eccles. Dist., Vauxhall; Address: # 31 Carruthers St.; Richard, Head of
Household, Age 32, Occ., Beer House Keeper, Born, Halsall With: Mary, Wife, Age
28, Occ., Beer House Keeper, Born, Halsall; Ann, Dau., Age 10, Scholar, born,
Halsall; Richard, son, Age 8, Scholar, born Halsall; Robert, son, Age 6,
Scholar, born, Liverpool; Jane, dau., Age 2, born Liverpool; (Couple: Richard &
Mary); Places mentioned: Liverpool; Halsall Lancashire
[BFD] 1861
Census, 1819 born roughly abt., Richard Fazakerley 1861 Census; Supt. Reg. Dist.,
Ormskirk; Reg. Sub Dist., Halsall; Enu. Dist. 2-C; Eccles. Dist., St.
Cuthberts; Address: Aspinwall Lane; Richard, Head of household, Age 42 (b. abt.
1819), Occ., Boatman, Canal Captain, Born Halsall Mary, Wife, Age 37 (1824), b.
Halsall; Ann, dau., unmarried, Age 20, b. Halsall; other children b. Liverpool;
Robert, 15, Occ., Mate; Jane, 12; James, 10; William, 7; Edward, 4; John, 4
mos.; Ellen, Sister, Age 31, Occ., Nurse, b. Halsall (Couple: Richard & Mary);
Places mentioned: Halsall; Liverpool Lancashire
#3 Ann Fazakerley
[MF IGI] Chr F FAZAKERLEY Ann Richard FAZAKERLEY Jane
21 Jul 1822 Halsall
Marriage: There are 2 possible marriages within the
time-frame
[BFD] 1842 Jan 18 Ann Fazakerley Marriage; Husband,
Richard Rimmer Ormskirk Lancashire
[BFD] 1844 Oct. 27 Ann Fazakerley St. Silas' Church;
Marriage; Ann m. William Goulbourn; William's father: Henry Goulbourn
1845 Dec 25
William Fazakerley St. Peters Church; LDS Film # 093922; Marriage; by Banns; J.
G. Headlow, Curate; Witnesses: Wm. H. Goulbourn & Jane Fazakerley; William,
Occ., Carter, Res., Carruthers St. m. Margaret Goulbourn, Res. same, Father:
Henry Goulboum, Occ., Shipwright William's father: Richard Fazakerley, Occ.,
Boatman; (Couple: William & Margaret Goulbourn) Liverpool
Also an
Edward Goulbourn was a witness to the marriage of Benjamin Cave and Ann Snape in
1832. Ann's father was Robert Snape boatman. Benjamin and Ann's daughter
Margaret Cave was the first wife of Richard Fazakerley the son of Captain
Fazakerley. I am not sure if this is relevant but it is certainly worth
recording.
I found the
following William Goulbourn on the 1881 Census possibly the widow of Ann
Fazakerley. Interesting that a son is called Richard
1881 Census
Dwelling: Census Place: Altcar Source: FHL Film 1341896 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3745
Folio 8 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William
GOULBOURN W 62 M Altcar Rel: Head Occ: Agricultural Labour
Richard
GOULBOURN U 34 M Altcar Rel: Son Occ: Agricultural Labour
Elizabeth
GOULBOURN U 23 F Altcar Rel: Daur Occ: House Keeper
William
DICKINSON M 26 M Formby Rel: Son In Law Occ: Agricultural Labour
Mary
DICKINSON M 30 F Altcar Rel: Daur In Law Occ: Labourer’s Daughter
William
DICKINSON 1 M Altcar Rel: Grand Son
Also of
interest is that an Ann Fazakerley was a witness to the wedding of a Thomas
Fazakerley and Mary Bond
[BFD] 1841
Feb 07 Ann Fazakerley St. Peters Church; LDS Film # 0093920; Ann, witness to the
marriage of Thomas Fazakerley & Mary Bond Liverpool Lancashire
#4 George Fazakerley
[BD] 1827 Mar 10 George Fazakerley C; Parents Richard &
Jane Halsall
[MF IGI] George Richard FAZAKERLEY Jane 18 Mar 1827 Halsall
[BFD] 1851
May 20 George Fazakerley St. Peters Church; LDS Film # 093924; Marriage; by
Banns; A. J. Tomlin, Curate; George, Occ., Flateman, res. Cannon St. m. Ann Pblett
(?), minor, res., Cannon St., father: Samuel P___ Occ. Brewer; Witnesses:
Richard Fazackerley & Ellen Fazackerley (x)
Interesting
that the witnesses are Richard Fazackerley & Ellen Fazackerley possible
evidence of them being George's brother and sister. I checked the 1881 Census
using the advanced search for P??blett and found only the following names in
Lancashire:
Mostly PIMBLETT; Occasional PEMBLETT, PANBLETT and
PIMBLET
I checked the marriage in the BMD index and her name is
given as Ann Pimbleft
Also interestingly this reference to a Barge Captain
called Pimblett in 1881 Vessel: "Charles"; Census Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341863 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3604 Folio 154 Page;
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas PIMBLETT M 29 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occ: (Barge) Captain
Elizabeth PIMBLETT M 28 F Manchester, Lancashire,
England Occ: Captains Wife
Catherine
PIMBLETT 4 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Occ: Captains Daur
Thomas
PIMBLETT 1 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Occ: Captains Son
On the 1881
Census is a reference to a George and Ann Fazackerley. George is born in
Halsall. It matches the timeframe and also Wigan is on the Leeds and Liverpool
Canal and has its own group of Fazakerleys.
Additionally
there is a son called Samuel and Ann P??blett's father is called Samuel.
Dwelling:
42 Walmer Street Census Place: Wigan; Source: FHL Film 1341901 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3767 Folio 119 Page 26 Marr
Age Sex Birthplace
George
FAZACKERLEY M 52 M Halsall Head Occ: Labourer
Ann
FAZACKERLEY M 50 F Wilderspool, Cheshire, England Rel: Wife
Ann
FAZACKERLEY U 22 F Latham Rel: Daur Occ: Factory Operative
Mary
E. FAZACKERLEY U 19 F Latham Rel: Daur Occ:
Factory Operative
Martha
FAZACKERLEY U 11 F Runcom, Cheshire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Samuel
FAZACKERLEY 8 M Wigan Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
[BFD] 1829 May 17 Ellen Fazakerley Halsall Parish
Church; Bapt. Richard & Jane; Occ., Boatman; Of Halsall Halsall Lancashire
[MF IGI] Chr F FAZAKERLEY Ellen Richard FAZAKERLEY Jane
17 May 1829 Halsall
Of the two
possible marriage references [below] I prefer the first for the number of points
of evidence. There is an Oldhall Street in Liverpool near the terminus of the
Leeds and Liverpool Canal. Ellen marries into another boat family. What is
strange is that her father is given as Joseph Fazakerley (boatman) and not
Richard. Is this an translation error??
[BFD] 1857
Mar 17 Ellen Fazakerley St. Nicholas' Church; LDS Film # 0093847‑52;
Marriage; By Banns; --- Duncan, Curate;
#6 Thomas Fazakerley
[MF IGI] Thomas Rchard FAZAKERLEY Jane 18 Dec 1831
Halsall
[IGI] Thomas Fazakerley Gender: M Chdstening: 18 Dec
1831 [Def 1831 in IGI] Halsall
Father: Richard FAZAKERLEY Mother: Jane
[BFD] 1841
Feb 07 Ann Fazakedey St. Peters Church; LDS Film # 0093920; Ann, witness to the
marriage of: Thomas Fazakerley & Mary Bond Liverpool Lancashire
Possible Marriages for Thomas
[BFD] 1856
Feb 04 Thomas Fazakerley St. Nicholas' Church; Marriage; by Banns; H. Brroks
(?), Curate; Both signed with X; Thomas, Res., Blackstone St., Occ., Labourer m.
Alice Banks, minor, Res., same St., Father: Henry Banks, Occ., Carter;
Witnesses: William Banks & Ellen Fazakerley Thomas' Father: Richard
Fazakerley, Occ., Boatman; (Couple: Thomas & Alice Banks) Liverpool Lancashire
So using
the IGI and your database as a starting point I found the following 6 possible
children of Richard and Jane Fazakerley born or christened as follows:1816 Sep
01 Susannah Fazakerley; 1818 Dec 12 Richard Fazakerley; 1822 Jul 21 Ann Fazakerley;
1827 Mar 18 George Fazakerley; 1829 May 17 Ellen Fazakerley; 1832 Dec 18 Thomas
Fazakerley [FDB] From IGI Thomas Fazakerley 18 Dec 1831
That
appears to be a convenient place to stop. There is more !!!!
Hope you
are keeping well. It looks like I will be visiting the Liverpool area in the
middle of June. I am going to have a search of the churchyard in Maghull. Please
let me know of anything you are looking for.
Best wishes
Stephen
Installment Seven
Subj: Branches
Twigs Leaves and a few seeds
Time From:
cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Hi Billie
Here is the
last [I promise] section. Things get less defined with more loose ends to
pursue. It follows on directly from the last section 6 that I sent.
Then I came
across the following Census record on your super database
1841 Census
LDS Film # 0306902; Ormskirk Parish; Scarisbrick, Township; Address: Aspinwall
Lane; Ann Fazakerley, Age 19 [born about 1822] Ellen, Age 11 [born about 18311
Thomas, Age 9 [born about 18331 Henry, Age 6 [born about 1835] & Henry &
Jane Hesketh (Ages 35 & 40) Scarisbrick; Ormskirk Lancashire
Is the following the Henry above???
1835 May 24 Henry Fazakerly St. John's Church; LDS Film #
0094009, Baptism; T. Clark, Curate Jane Fazakerly; Abode: Hope Street Preston
Lancashire
Checked 1851 Census looking for matches from the 1841 Census
above,
--Thomas
born 1833 would be 19 in 1851 none found
--Ellen
born 1831 would be 21 in 1851 none found
--Ann
born 1822 would be 29 in 1851 none found
1881
Census a Henry Hesketh born 1807 in Halsall Dwelling: North Moor Lane;
Census Place: Halsall, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341895 PRO
Ref RG11 Piece 3743 Folio 12 Page 18 Marr Age Sex
Birthplace
Henry
HESKETH M 74 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 66 Acres Employs 3 Labourers 1 Boy
Mary HESKETH M 62 F Downholland, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife
Ann
SNAPE U 16 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Serv Occ: Domestic Serv
Emma FOSTER U 14 F Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Serv Occ: Domestic Serv
Henry
PORTER U 23 M Halsall, Lancashire, England Rel: Serv Occ: Farm Serv (indoor)
James
HESKETH U 17 M Downholland, Lancashire, England Rel: Grand Son
Occ: Farm Serv (indoor)
1861 Census
looking for matches from the 1841 Census above
--Henry born
1835 would be 26 in 1861 none found and [not found on 1871 Census]
--Thomas born
1833 would be 29 in 1861 could be the below [not found on 1871 Census]
1834
Roughly abt. Thomas Fazakerly 1861 Census; LDS Film # 0543012; Abercromby Ward;
Address: # 6 Pomona St.; Thomas, Head of Household, Age 27 (b. abt. 1834); Occ.,
Bookbinder, born, Liverpool With: Jessie, Wife, Age 34 (b. abt. 1827), born,
Homer? Lane.; Thomas, son, Age 1, born, Liverpool; (Couple: Thomas & Jessie)
Liverpool (Occ. Bookbinder) Lancashire
--Ellen
born 1831 would be 31 in 1861 with Captain Richard as Nurse 31 unmarried
It is also
worth adding the following 1841 entries:
[BFD] 1841
Census Halsall Township; Living in Halsall Village; Richard Fazakerley, Age 20;
Occ., Boatman Mary, Age 19
[BFD] 1841 Census; Halsall Parish; Halsall Township,
Robert, Age 10 Lives with Robert Segar, Age 55, Farmer Halsall Parish; Halsall
Township Lancaster (Lancashire)
Curiouser
and curiouser as Alice said.
So in 1841
of those found on the IGI as having parents called Richard and Jane
Susannah
Fazakerley would be 25 and probably married if still alive.
Richard
Fazakerley is married to Mary is in Halsall Village on the night of the Census.
Their abode may have been a house or a boat
George
Fazakerley who would be about 14 is nowhere to be found.
Also there is William, Age 20 Slept on a boat with
Robert Stowell & James Fazakerley, Age 15 Halsall Parish; Halsall Township, Lancaster (Lancashire)
Additionally
where are Richard and Jane the parents?? And why are the children living with
Henry and Jane Hesketh???
I do not
see one simple and obvious answer at the present although I have lots of ideas.
If Richard and Jane who probably married in about 1815 were say 20 at marriage
then in 1841 they would be about 45 years old. Perhaps
()
They had died; ( ) They simply were in Halsall or Scarisbrick on the
night of the census but were not counted; () They were on a boat
somewhere else on the Leeds and Liverpool Canal even in Yorkshire.
What about
Henry and Jane Hesketh. Well Hesketh is yet another of the common boatman
surnames on the L&L Canal perhaps Jane Hesketh was originally a Fazakerley
at 40 years old in 1841 she would not be a sibling of Captain Richard etc. but
possibly a younger sister of Richard (Richard and Jane) that is Captain
Richard's Aunt. Also perhaps Richard of Richard and Jane died and Jane married
again to Henry Hesketh. The children would have kept the name Fazakerley,
however Jane's daughter Susannah would be 25 when Jane was about 40 a bit tight
a time scale for marriage to Richard and birth
of Susannah. Although it is not unknown. I will not pursue the
possibly of remarriage of Jane Fazakerley to Henry Hesketh otherwise I think
steam will come out of
my ears attempting to
juggle the two strands of Jane Fazakerley as either Captain Richard's Aunt or
Mother. I will assume that Jane of Jane and Henry Hesketh is the children’s
Aunt.
Also a Jane
Fazakerly was a witness at William Fazakerley's marriage to Margaret Goulboum.
This Jane could have been William's Aunt.
1845 Dec 25
William Fazakerley St. Peter's Church; LDS Film # 093922; Marriage; by Banns, J.
G. Headlow, Curate; Witnesses: Wm. H. Goulbourn & Jane Fazakerley; William,
Occ., Carter, Res., Carruthers St. m. Margaret Goulboum, Res. same, Father:
Henry Goulboum, Occ., Shipwright William's father: Richard Fazakerley, Occ.,
Boatman; (William & Margaret Goulbourn) Liverpool
Additionally
a Jane Fazakerley was witness to the marriage of an Ellen Fazakerley and a John
Hesketh. 1812 Mar 16 Ellen (Eleanor) Fazackerly; Fazakerley St. Paul's Church,
St. Paul's Square: Marriage; Husband, John Hesketh; Source: FHL# 1068956; Occ.,
Carter; Marriage, by Banns; Ellen, Spinster, J. B. Monk, Offic. Minister; Both
of Liverpool Parish; Both signed with an X Witness: Jane Fazakerley Liverpool
Lancashire
Also an
Ellen Fazakerley was witness to the marriage of Ann Fazakerley [Ann Christening:
14 Jun 1829 Maghull daughter of James (possibly brother of Richard (Richard and
Jane)) FAZAKERLEY and Eliza] and William Carrington in 1849. If all this were
correct Ellen Hesketh would be Ann's Aunt in the following reference:
1849 Feb 19
Ann Fazakerley St. Peters Church; LDS Film 093923; Marriage; by Banns; J. G.
Headlam, Curate both signed with an
Richard (of
Rchard Fazakerley and Jane)
Jane (of Jane and Henry Hesketh)
Ellen (of Ellen and
John Hesketh) also
James (of James and Eliza) I believe this might be the James
that is father [who is a boatman] mentioned in a number of other Fazakerley
weddings
It is
possible that the following were siblings and children of Richard Fazakerley and
Jane:
Richard
20 (but only according to the 1841 Census)
William
20 (but only according to the 1841 Census)
Ann
19 with Henry & Jane Hesketh
Ellen
11 with Henry & Jane Hesketh
Robert
10 lives with Robert Segar
Thomas
9 with Henry & Jane Hesketh
Henry
6 with Henry & Jane Hesketh
Robert may be an exception living away from his siblings
in another household and there is a bit of a squeeze of 3 children in 3 years.
Prior to
all this I was independently arriving at the conclusion that there was probably
a William who was a son of Richard and Jane Fazakerley but who doesn't show on
the IGI as such.
IGI Children of William and Margaret
Firstly
there is the marriage of William Fazakerley to Margaret Goulbourn in 1845: Dec
25 William Fazakerley St. Peters Church; LDS Film # 093922; Marriage; by Banns;
J. G. Headlow, Curate; Witnesses: Wm. H. Goulbourn & Jane Fazakerley‑,
William, Occ., Carter, Res., Carruthers St. m. Margaret Goulboum, Res. same,
Father: Henry Goulboum, Occ., Shipwright William's father: Richard Fazakerley,
Occ., Boatman; (William & Margaret Goulbourn) Liverpool
And Ann
Fazakerleys marriage to William Goulboum in 1844 with the same name of father
Henry Goulbourn it is possible that William Goulboum and Margaret Goulbourn are
brother and sister and the timeframe fits.
[BFD] 1844
Oct. 27 Ann Fazakerley St. Silas' Church; Marriage‑, Ann m. William
Goulboum; William's father: Henry Goulbourn Ann's father: Richard Fazakerley
Liverpool Lancashire
Also a
William Fazakerley boatman shows in the 1851 City Directory living in the
Carruthers Street a few houses away from Captain Richard Fazakerley who is at
this time running a Beer House.
1851
William Fazakerley 1851; City Directory; Boatman: # 7 Carruthers St. Liverpool
1851
Richard Fazakerley 1851; City Directory; Beer House; # 31 Carruthers St.
Liverpool
A strong
indication that they were related; possibly brothers??
So next I
checked the IGI for children of William Fazakerley and Margaret
#1 Ann
Gender: F Christening: 22 Nov 1846
Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England #2 James Gender: M Christening:
9 Jul 1848 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England #3 Henrv Gender: M
Christening: 21 Jul 1850 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England #4 Richard
Gender: M Christening: 28 Dec 1851 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
#5 William Gender: M Christening: 22 May 1854 Saint Peter, Liverpool,
Lancashire, England #6 William Alma Gender: M Christening: 25 Jan 1856 Saint
Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England #7 Jane FAZZAYKERLAY Gender: F
Christening: 13 Dec 1857 All Souls Vauxhall, Liverpool, Lancashire, England #8
Elizabeth Anne Gender: F Christening: 19 Feb 1860 All Souls Vauxhall, Liverpool,
Lancashire, England [BFD] 1860 Feb 19 Elizabeth Anne Fazakerley All
Saints All Souls, Vauxhall; Baptism; A. Hume, Minister; LDS Film # 1068892
William & Margaret; Occ., Boatman; Address: Carruthers Street Liverpool
Lancashire #9 George Gender: M Christening: 27 Jul 1863 Saint Peter, Liverpool,
Lancashire, England #10 Margaret Jane Gender: F Christening: 24 Jul 1865 Saint
Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father: William FAZACKERLEY Mother:
Margaret #11 Thomas Gender: M Christening: 28 Oct 1867 Saint Peter., Liverpool,
Lancashire, England #12 Susannah Gender: F Christening: 16 Jul 1869 Saint Peter,
Liverpool, Lancashire, England # 13 Ellen Gender: F Christening: 31 Jul 1872
Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
#5 William
Gender: M Christening: 22 May 1854 is the one I received a Birth Certificate for
and this shows his father to be William Fazakerley and mother to be Margaret
formerly Goulbourn.
All the
names of these possible children fit with the general naming styles of this
branch of the Fazakerleys.
Additionally
are the following 1881 Census records which are probably William and his wife
Margaret. He is in Liverpool on the boat "Dace" with his son George #9
age 18 whilst Thomas #11 age 14 is head of the boat of the sister boat
"Perch". Margaret is at home in Wigan with Daughters Margaret J 15,
Susannah 11 and Ellen 8 which fit nicely with #s 10, 12, 13.
Dwelling: Flats & Barges Perch Census Place: Liverpool
Source: FHL Film 1341864 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3606 Folio145 Page 22 Marr Age Sex
Birthplace
1881
Census; Dwelling: 3 Ormandys
Houses Census Place: Wigan Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Margaret
FAZACKERLY M 52 F Mellen Rel: Head Occ: Boatman's Wife
Margaret
J. FACKERLY (FAZACKERLY) 15 F Runcom Rel: Daur Occ: Cotton Winder
Susannah
FAZACKERLY U 11 F Wigan Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Ellen
FAZACKERLY 8 F Winsford, Cheshire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
This
leaves the potential children #1-8
#
1 Ann Fazakerley Gender: F Christening: 22 Nov 1846 Saint Peter, Liverpool
#2
James Fazakerley Gender: M Christening: 9 Jul 1848 Saint Peter, Liverpool
On
the 1881 Census there is a James Fazakerley [Blackrod is not that far from Wigan
and also on the
Leeds
and Liverpool Canal]
Dwelling:
Alert (Name Of Canal Boat) Census Place: Blackrod Source: FHL Film 1341900 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3761 Folio 101 Page 13 Marr
Age Sex Birthplace
James
FAZACKERLEY M 32 M Liverpool Occ: Master Boatman
You
will perhaps recall from episode 3 that Captain
If James was 10 on 7 Apr 1861 [the date of 1861 Census]
then he was born between 7 Apr 1850 and 6 Apr
1851.
Therefore on 3 Apr 1881 [the date of 1861 Census] he would be 29 approaching 30.
The following
James is a likely candidate.
Dwelling:
29 Wrexham St, Kirkdale, Liverpool
James
FAZAKERLEY M 29 M Liverpool Rel: Head Occ: Carter
Ellen
FAZAKERLEY M 29 F Lathom Rel: Wife
Mary
A. FAZAKERLEY 2 F Liverpool Rel: Daur
Richard
FAZAKERLEY 1 M Liverpool Rel: Son
George
F. CORBETT U 30 M West Derby Rel: Boarder Occ: Labourer
From
IGI:
Dwelling:
Alert (Name Of Canal Boat) Census Place: Blackrod, Lancs
James
FAZACKERLEY M 32 M Liverpool, Lancs Occ:Master Boatman
Thus I think, at the moment that William's son James is
the boatman on the "Alert" in Blackrod whereas
#3
Henrv Fazakerley
1881
Census Gender: M Christening: 21 Jul 1850 Saint Peter, Liverpool Dwelling: 5
Temple St; Census Place:
Pennington In Leigh Source: FHL Film 1341910 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3806 Folio 99
Page 42 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Henrv
FAZACKERLEY M 31 M Liverpool Rel: Head Occ: Boatman (Barge)
Nancy
FAZACKERLEY M 29 F Leigh Rel: Wife
William
FAZACKERLEY 6 M Leigh Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Jane
FAZACKERLEY 5 F Leigh Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Martha
FAZACKERLEY 2 F Leigh Rel: Daur
Elizabeth
FAZACKERLEY 9 m F Leigh Rel: Daur
Daniel
WARREN U 20 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Boatman
Sarah
BUGGLE U 16 F Leigh Rel: Lodger Occ: Cotton Frame Tenter
Mary
BLUNDELL U 24 F Liverpool Rel: Lodger Occ: Cotton Frame Tenter
Margaret
A. BLUNDELL 7 F Leigh Union Workhouse Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
#4
Richard Fazakerley
1881
Census Gender: M Christening: 28 Dec 1851 Saint Peter, Liverpool Dwelling:
13 Ormskirk St Census Place: Windle Source:
FHL Film 1341893 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3733 Folio70 Page 18 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Richard
FAZACKERLEY M 31 M Everton Liverpool Rel: Head Occ: Gas Lamplighter
Fanny
FAZACKERLEY M 29 F Frankton, Shropshire, England Rel: Wife
Richard
James FAZACKERLEY 6 M Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Fanny
Elizabeth FAZACKERLEY 3 F St Helens Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
#5
William Fazakerley
1855 Sep 23 William Fazakerley St. John's Church, Old
Haymarket; Burial; Age 16 mos. No parents listed;
1854 May 22 William Fazakerley St. Peters Church;
Gender:
M Christening: 25 Jan 1856 Saint Peter, Liverpool
William
FAZAKERLEY M 61 M Halsall Rel: Head Occ: Master
George
FAZAKERLEY U 18 M Liverpool Rel: Son Occ: Mate
JAMES FAZAKERLEY possibly Richard's [and Jane’s] brother
[BFD]
Possible marriage 1821 Feb 18 James Fazakerley St. Peters Church Marriage; by
Banns; D. Hewitt, Minister No parents listed: James, Occ., Carter, married
Elizabeth Wharton, Spinster; both of this parish; James & Elizabeth Wharton
Liverpool
[BFD] 1849 Oct 19 Eliza Fazakerley Halsall Parish Church,
Burial; Age 49 (b. abt. 1800) Of Burscough Halsall; Burscough (Ormskirk Parish)
Lancashire
I checked
the IGI for children for James and Eliza and found the following:
Possible
marriage 1849 Feb 19 Ann Fazakerley St. Peter's Church; LDS Film 093923;
Marriage‑, by Banns; J. G. Headlam, Curate; both signed with an X; Ann,
res. Finch St., m. William Carrington, res. Finch St., Occ., Carter, father: Wm.
Carrington, Farmer; Witnesses: Thomas Baldwin & Ellen Hesketh Ann's father:
James Fazakerley, Occ., Boatman Liverpool
BDB 1847 Jun 28 Margery (Majorie) Fazakerley Halsall
Parish Church; Burial; Age, 9 years (b. abt. 1838); Burscough; R. Leigh, Rector
Parents not listed Halsall; Burscough (Ormskirk Parish) Lancashire
#5 Thomas
Gender: M Christening: 23 Sep 1838 Halsall, Lancashire,
England Father: James FAZAKERLEY Mother: Eliza
1881 Census matches
Dwelling: Hanging Bridges; Census Place: Croston, Lancashire,
England Source: FHL Film 1342011 PRO Ref RG11 Piece
4222
Folio 86 Page 1 Marr Age Sex
Birthplace
Thomas
FAZACKERLEY M 42 M Tarleton, Lancashire, England Rel:
Head Occ: Farmer 36 Acres 1 Labourer
Ellen
FAZACKERLEY M 31 F Tarleton. Lancashire. England Rel:
Wife
Mary
FAZACKERLEY U 9 F Croston, Lancashire. England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
John
FAZACKERLEY U 7 M Croston. Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Ann
FAZACKERLEY U 6 F Croston, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Thomas
FAZACKERLEY U 4 M Croston, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Margaret
FAZACKERLEY U 2 F Croston, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Ellen
FAZACKERLEY U 6 mF Croston, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Thomas
HUDSON U 18 M Croston, Lancashire, England Occ: Serv (Farm) (indoor)
THE END [so far]
The
following are references that I have found that may relate to this branch of the
Fazakerleys either because of occupation, location or name:
Jane Fazakerley 1837 Oct 02 Ormskirk Parish Church; Marriage:
Jane to Wm. Disley of Lathom; Banns; Wm. Wannop, Curate
Margaret Fazakerley 1836 Sep 11 Halsall Parish Church; Baptism James
& Eliza; Occ.; Boatman; Of Burscough Halsall; Burscough (Ormskirk Parish)
Lancashire
1812 Mar 16
Ellen (Eleanor) Fazackerly; Fazakerley St. Paul's Church, St. Paul's Square;
Maniage; Husband, John Hesketh; Source: FHL# 1068956; Occ., Carter; Marriage, by
Banns; Ellen, Spinster, J. B. Monk, Offic. Minister; Both of Liverpool Parish;
Both signed with an x Witness: Jane Fazakerley Liverpool Lancashire
1794 Dec 30 Betty (Elizabeth) Fazakerley Burial; Halsall
Parish Church Records Daughter of William
1774 Aug 29 Catherine Fazakerley Halsall Parish Church;
Marriage; by License; Husband, Henry Cave
Installment
Eight: A
Few Burials: Maghull & Ormskirk
Stephen
CookSubj: Nobody in the graveyard!!
Date: 6/30/2001 12:21:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: bfazakerly@aol.com (billie)
Hi Billie
Well I have returned after my trip to Ormskirk and
Maghull.
Sad to say I found absolutely nothing for you or for
me. Maghull Chapel is a small part of the original
church that was retained when the new St Andrews
Church was built during Victorian times. The chapel
and small associated graveyard is located in the
corner of the new church’s graveyard. It is very
dark, damp and atmospheric being the shaded by several
large trees.
The whole of the chapel’s graveyard is overgrown and
had just been mowed hence everything was covered in
mulched vegetation. There are many stones standing but
also many that are laid on the ground and partially or
totally obscured by soil and debris.
I spent 3 hours checking both the old and new
graveyards and only found the following reference to
any Fazakerleys.
Cyril John beloved husband of Emily Fazackerley died
29 Jun 1959 aged 57. I believe that there is a church
at Lydiate and this may be where the Fazakerleys might
have been buried?
I had a browse around Ormskirk graveyard and found a
few references to Fazakerleys.
Ernest Edward Fazakerley son of Edward and Elizabeth
of Lathom died Sept 17 1891 aged 4½ years. The
reminder of the inscription was indecipherable.
Robert died 10 June 1891 age [?]1 and Elizabeth
Fazakerley died 1[?] Feb 1909 age 62 of Bickerstaffe
and Mary Daughter died 14 July 1929 Age 81.
John Fazakerley Aug 28 1808 in the 57 year of age and
Mary wife Nov 20 1812 aged 58.
I hope the above might mean something to someone, one
day. I haven’t cross-checked them with your
database, so you may have the information already.
I have returned to reading all the material that I
sent you and which you have kindly added to your Faz
site. I have found one obvious error!!
In installment six I quote the following:
=================================================
#5 Ellen Fazakerley
[BFD] 1829 May 17 Ellen Fazakerley Halsall Parish
Church; Bapt. Richard & Jane; Occ., Boatman; Of
Halsall Halsall Lancashire
[MF IGI] Chr F FAZAKERLEY Ellen Richard FAZAKERLEY
Jane 17 May 1829 Halsall
1861 Census; Supt. Reg. Dist., Ormskirk; Reg. Sub
Dist., Halsall; Enu. Dist. 2-C; Eccles. Dist., St.
Cuthberts; Address: Aspinwall Lane; Richard, Head of
household, Age 42 (b. abt. 1819), Occ., Boatman, Canal
Captain, Born Halsall Mary, Wife, Age 37 (1824), b.
Halsall; Ann, dau., unmarried, Age 20, b. Halsall;
other children b. Liverpool; Robert, 15, Occ., Mate;
Jane, 12; James, 10; William, 7; Edward, 4; John, 4
mos.; Ellen, Sister, Age 31, Occ., Nurse, b. Halsall
born about 1830 (Couple: Richard & Mary); Places
mentioned: Halsall; Liverpool Lancashire Co. (may be
able to assume that as Ellen is not given a surname
she is still a Fazakerley and still unmarried?)
Of the two possible marriage references [below] I
prefer the first for the number of points of evidence.
There is an Oldhall Street in Liverpool near the
terminus of the Leeds and Liverpool Canal. Ellen
marries into another boat family. What is strange is
that her father is given as Joseph Fazakerley
(boatman) and not Richard. Is this a translation
error??
[BFD] 1857 Mar 17 Ellen Fazakerley St. Nicholas'
Church; LDS Film # 0093847-52; Marriage; By Banns; ---
Duncan, Curate; Ellen, a minor, res. Oldhall St. m.
John Dobson, Occ., Boatman, Res. Clement St., Father:
John Dobson, Occ., Boatman; Witnesses: Wm. Hartley &
Ann Dobson Ellen's Father: Joseph Fazakerley, Occ.,
Boatman Liverpool Lancashire
[BFD] 1857 Nov 30 Ellen Fazakerley St. Peters Church;
LDS Film # 093927; Marriage; by Banns; J. Walsh,
Curate; Ellen, minor m. Thomas Scarisbrick, Occ.,
Victualler, Father: James Scarisbrick, Occ., Labourer;
Witnesses: Thomas Francis & Mary Pendalton Ellen's
father not listed Liverpool Lancashire
=======================================================
Now this is the error; in both the marriages quoted
Ellen Fazakerley is a minor [under 21] in 1857
therefore they were born after 1836. However the Ellen
Fazakerley I am referring to is the sister of Captain
Richard Fazakerley and on the 1861 Census she is given
as being 31 years of age. This appears to be a rather
large difference anything from 6-10 years?
Also she cannot be the Ellen who married John Dobson.
As you know I have been confused by the reference to
Ellen’s father being Joseph Fazakerley [boatman]. I
decided to send for a copy of the entry of marriage
and have found all the details are correct including
Ellen’s father being Joseph Fazakerley [boatman].
This is really puzzling me as I have searched the
available data and can find no other reference to a
Joseph Fazakerley [boatman] and a daughter Ellen. The
certificate I obtained is the copy made by the priest
into the General Register of Marriages. I shall have
to check the original in Liverpool sometime in case an
error was made.
In the hope of clearing up some of the many unsolved
problems found in the case study I have started
logically looking at marriages and obtaining the
corresponding certificates.
Firstly, I have located the reference for Aunt Polly’s
marriage to John Lunt so I will order this certificate
to establish who John Lunt was. Also I found in the
St Catharine’s Index the references for the marriages
of Edward Fazakerley to Alice Wetter 1880 [given as
Witter in the index but as Wetter on the 1881 Census]
and for the marriage of James Fazakerley to Ellen
Witter 1875.
Edward and James I believe are two of Richard
Fazakerley’s brothers i.e. two of the uncles of the 4
Fazakerley girls. If the the certificates prove
otherwise then it will be two more marriages eliminated
from my searches and may be useful information for
others. I think that this is going to be the best way
to approach the problem of positively identifying all
these Fazakerleys and their in-laws. It should keep me
busy for a long time to come.
Hope you are well and sorry the graveyard searches
were so disappointing.
Best wishes
Stephen
PS I have a copy of a wonderful photo of Mary Jane
Fazakerley but have no scanner. Would it be easier
for me to send you a copy; have you scanning
facilities. I have tried several shops in Leeds and
none can or will scan the photo onto disc for me
Installment Nine: Marriage Certificates, Poll Book, etc.
Subj: Edward and James "Aunt Pollie's" brothers
Date: 7/14/2001 5:03:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk (stephen cook)
To: Bfazakerly@aol.com
Hi Billie
News at last.
I received the Marriage Certificates for the
probable/possible siblings of Richard Fazakerley, the
father of the 4 Fazakerley sisters:
Certificate #1
1875
Marriage solemnized at St Nicholas Church in the
Parish of Liverpool in the County of Lancaster
Entry No 482
5 Jul 1875
James Fazakerley Full age Bachelor Carter Benledi
Street
Father: Richard Fazakerley - Labourer
Ellen Witter Full age Spinster ---- Hardy Street
Father: Richard Witter - Brewer
Witnesses: Wm Fazakerley
Elizabeth Witter
Curate: Charles Neath?
The name of James and Richard have been changed from
Fazackerley to read Fazakerley
Certificate #2
1874
Marriage solemnized at St Nicholas Church in the
Parish of Liverpool in the County of Lancaster
Entry No 261
9 Dec 1874
Edward Fazakerley 22 Bachelor Carter 32 Hardy Street
Father: Richard Fazakerley (deceased) - Labourer
Alice Witter 22 Spinster ---- 32 Hardy Street
Father: Richard Witter - Foreman Brewer
Witnesses: John F Crank
Elizabeth Crank
Incumbent : F D Bartlett
I was a little puzzled at first viewing these
certificates because of the reference to James and
Edward’s father as Richard Fazakerley a Labourer and
not as a boatman. The latter would have been more
comforting.
I am very happy with the thought that James and Edward
are brothers who married Ellen and Alice Witter. The
Witters have the same Church, address, father’s names,
and occupation in common, good enough for me.
As I said the Faz brothers puzzled me for a while.
Where they actually the children of another Richard.
However, I eventually deciphered James residence as
Benledi Street. You may remember that Mary “Aunt
Polly” and her brother John and their mother Mary were
living there in 1881. Although I know that they were
not there in 1871 it looks like they were residents in
1875 and that James was living with them.
Game, set and match!
The above then tie in with the following from the 1881
Census:
29 Wrexham St, Kirkdale
James FAZAKERLEY M 29 M Liverpool Rel: Head Occ:
Carter
Ellen FAZAKERLEY M 29 F Laithom Rel: Wife
Elizabeth FAZAKERLEY 4 F Liverpool Rel: Daur Occ:
Scholar
Mary A. FAZAKERLEY 2 F Liverpool Rel: Daur
Richard FAZAKERLEY 1 M Liverpool Rel: Son
George F. CORBETT U 30 M West Derby Boarder Occ:
Laborer
Dwelling:47 Upper Beau St Census Place: Everton
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Elizabeth WETTER W 54 F Lathom Rel:Head Occ:
Housekeeper
John E. CRANK M 26 M Liverpool Rel:Son In Law Occ:
Paper Ruler
Elizabeth CRANK M 25 F Liverpool Rel:Daur Occ:
Envelope Maker
Edward FAZAKERLEY M 24 M Halsall Rel:Son In Law Occ:
Carter
Alice FAZAKERLEY M 23 F Liverpool Rel:Daur
Mary J. WETTER U 17 F Liverpool Rel:Daur Occ: Paper
Stamper (Mfr)
Richard FAZAKERLEY 6 m M Liverpool Rel:Grandson
I also received the marriage certificate for Mary
“Aunt Polly” Fazakerley and John Lunt. Not a great
deal of additional information other than John’s
father was a labourer and was also called John Lunt!!!
I think I will have to trace them on Census records
as a family to be sure.
I am now working on William and Robert another two of
the brothers.
Have you heard about the release in September of the
1891 Census on CD rom. You will get a scanned image of
the actual enumerators' books. There will not be the
cross-referencing and indexing of the LDS 1881 set.
However given that I know where dozens of the family
were located in 1881 it shouldn’t be too difficult to
find them 10 years later and with LOTS more children!
I am going to make some more inquries from the
suppliers but think I will invest in the 35 CDs for
Lancashire at a modest pre-release price of £35.
This is the link :-
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Genealogy_Supplies/whatsnew.htm
Hope everything is going well. I promise I will copy
and send all the documents I have been intending to
send for so long. Sorry. Time, or lack of it.
Best
Wishes
Stephen
1704 Consecration of St Peter's Cathedral church
From Liverpool Poll Book 1832
FAZAKERLEY,HENRY,COOPER,COOKSON STREET,LIVERPOOL,E &
S,BGS/FMN
FAZAKERLEY,JOHN,TAILOR,DUKE STREET,LIVERPOOL,E & T,
FAZAKERLEY,ROBERT,ROPER,PITT STREET,LIVERPOOL,S &
D,BGS/FMN
FAZAKERLEY,ROBERT Jnr.,ROPER,KITCHEN
STREET,LIVERPOOL,S & D,BGS/FMN
FAZAKERLEY,THOMAS,ROPER,PITT STREET,LIVERPOOL,S &
D,BGS/FMN
FAZAKERLEY,THOMAS,SHOE MAKER,NORRIS GREEN,WEST DERBY,S
& D,BGS/FMN
BFD
1813
John Fazakerley 1813 City Directory (Gore's); Painter
& Shop; # 6 Barter Street
Liverpool Lancashir